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	<title>Comments on: Planned Parenthood In New Initiative Targets 10 Year-Old Children With Condoms That Don&#8217;t Work</title>
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	<description>Dr. Gerard M. Nadal: Science in Service of the Pro-Life Movement</description>
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		<title>By: Mad mom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mad mom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 21:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deep down I know this vaccine is not good, my dr  that doese yrly ck ups for my girl s tell me I should do this , My oldest got the first vaccine   and I didnt follow thru after reading and educating  my self about this vaccine ,  It s not proven    and if it is tell me why]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deep down I know this vaccine is not good, my dr  that doese yrly ck ups for my girl s tell me I should do this , My oldest got the first vaccine   and I didnt follow thru after reading and educating  my self about this vaccine ,  It s not proven    and if it is tell me why</p>
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		<title>By: myrtle miller</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[myrtle miller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Micah 7:3-4 paints a really nice picture of the consequences of the types of actions Planned Parenthood is involved in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micah 7:3-4 paints a really nice picture of the consequences of the types of actions Planned Parenthood is involved in.</p>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s Time for Planned Parenthood to Go &#171; Coming Home</title>
		<link>http://gerardnadal.com/2010/02/09/planned-parenthood-in-new-initiative-targets-10-year-old-children-with-condoms-that-dont-work/#comment-2645</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[It&#8217;s Time for Planned Parenthood to Go &#171; Coming Home]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Planed Parenthood targets children and encourages open rebellion against their parents morality, referring to it as &#8216;taboos&#8217;. The refer to sex as &#8217;sex play&#8217;, stripping it of its conjugal mystery and dignity, dehumanizing our children in the process. PP continues to push condoms, though CDC admits that they do not protect against many diseases at all, and marginally against most others. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Planed Parenthood targets children and encourages open rebellion against their parents morality, referring to it as &#8216;taboos&#8217;. The refer to sex as &#8217;sex play&#8217;, stripping it of its conjugal mystery and dignity, dehumanizing our children in the process. PP continues to push condoms, though CDC admits that they do not protect against many diseases at all, and marginally against most others. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Allstate v. Planned Parenthood. Are YOU In Good Hands? &#171; Coming Home</title>
		<link>http://gerardnadal.com/2010/02/09/planned-parenthood-in-new-initiative-targets-10-year-old-children-with-condoms-that-dont-work/#comment-2385</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Allstate v. Planned Parenthood. Are YOU In Good Hands? &#171; Coming Home]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] on the failure of the contraceptives they know to be intrinsically ineffectual. See these posts here and here for all of the CDC data that prove this point. They know these data better than [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Planned Parenthood In New Initiative Targets 10 Year-Old Children &#8230; &#124; Health News</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Planned Parenthood In New Initiative Targets 10 Year-Old Children &#8230; &#124; Health News</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Destruction of Innocents &#171; Coming Home</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Destruction of Innocents &#171; Coming Home]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Diseases Surveillance, 2008. These data are presented as a follow-up to yesterday&#8217;s post on Planned Parenthood In New Initiative Targets 10 Year-Old Children With Condoms That Don’t Work. This is the new initiative by PP to finish off our children, pushing all-out for comprehensive sex [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Diseases Surveillance, 2008. These data are presented as a follow-up to yesterday&#8217;s post on Planned Parenthood In New Initiative Targets 10 Year-Old Children With Condoms That Don’t Work. This is the new initiative by PP to finish off our children, pushing all-out for comprehensive sex [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard M. Nadal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerard M. Nadal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SJ,

My spam filter is set to hold posts with multiple links. Be patient if you post multiple links. I&#039;ll free it from limbo as soon as I see it.

Gotta fly. I&#039;ll comment later.

God Bless]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SJ,</p>
<p>My spam filter is set to hold posts with multiple links. Be patient if you post multiple links. I&#8217;ll free it from limbo as soon as I see it.</p>
<p>Gotta fly. I&#8217;ll comment later.</p>
<p>God Bless</p>
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		<title>By: Siarlys Jenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Siarlys Jenkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh good, something we can all agree on. The closing statement is indisputable. It is also true that the more casual sex by men and women who are not prepared for the responsibilities of being parents, the more pregnant women seeking abortions there will be. Except by the measure of how much money is in it as a growth industry, that&#039;s not good, even, or especially, by the most libertarian pro-choice standards. And, I have little doubt about the study showing the PP has come to rely on abortion as a prime source of revenue, as distinct from offering a service to individuals who seek them out to request it. Its the same story with many &quot;non-profits,&quot; the ones that don&#039;t pay a corporate dividend, but rely on commercial sales of services to support a mostly paid (not volunteer) staff.

Everyone is talking about different angles on the Tebows, but Rod Dreher had an interesting take on Tebow being asked by reporters &quot;are you saving yourself for marriage,&quot; and replying &quot;yes I am,&quot; then laughing at the reporters for being embarrassed. A Washington Post sports writer even complimented his answer.

What grabbed me about this long column was way back at the beginning: sex education should be compulsory, and ten year olds should be seen as &quot;sexual beings,&quot; no matter what the family or their church might be teaching.

This is a lot like the Freedom From Religion Foundation, wanting everyone to be free to think just like they do -- e.g., if you&#039;re not an atheist, you&#039;re not free. In this case, the authors of the report have a notion that &quot;my personal attitudes toward sexuality, and the ones I share with the other people who prepared this report, are THE proper way for all human beings to think about sexuality.&quot; Excuse me, but I might think differently about sexuality, and since its still a free country, sort of, I don&#039;t have to think the way you do. I also don&#039;t have to think the same way Gerard Nadal does, or the way Hugh Heffner does, or the way Barack Obama does, or the way Dr. James Dobson does.

Protecting children from obvious abuse has its place. But inevitably, since nobody has advocated that ten year olds are adults, eligible for adult prison sentences or execution, eligible to vote, etc., decisions about their upbringing are going to be made by their parents. There is a long line of Supreme Court precedent on this point, from 

Pierce v. Society of Sisters of the Holy Name of Jesus and Mary

http://supreme.justia.com/us/268/510/case.html

to Troxel v. Granville

http://supreme.justia.com/us/530/57/index.html

Decisions about raising children are not helpful for the state to usurp, and as Justice Brennan wrote half a century ago, the framers of our constitution were no more willing to subordinate individual rights to the whim of electoral majorities than to monarchy. Planned Parenthood, or anyone of similar tastes, proclaiming that because Roman Catholic, Orthodox Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, or any other faiths don&#039;t reach sex like WE teach sex, and therefore WE should get to teach ALL children OUR way, is totalitarian freethinking at its worst.

It reminds me of an obscure Ph.D thesis I read about while researching the biography of Howard University philosophy professor Eugene C. Holmes. His dissertation was a critique of John Dewey&#039;s development of pragmatism. Dewey has come in for the same sort of flak Margaret Sanger has -- he basically advocated public schools so the dirty ignorant unwashed children of immigrants would be socialized to be obedient factory workers. Holmes particularly critiqued the way that pragmatism had attached itself to populist and progressive currents in American politics, masquerading as democratic opposition to monopoly capitalism.

We have to get the nanny state social worker mentality unwound from both libertarian and communalist strands of our history and culture. Of course the way I frame this still means we will disagree about abortion, but, if we get the hands of this arrogant report off of children&#039;s education, and if churches prepared to teach abstinence and fidelity can get a positive response from children they reach, then there will be a lot less abortion to debate about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh good, something we can all agree on. The closing statement is indisputable. It is also true that the more casual sex by men and women who are not prepared for the responsibilities of being parents, the more pregnant women seeking abortions there will be. Except by the measure of how much money is in it as a growth industry, that&#8217;s not good, even, or especially, by the most libertarian pro-choice standards. And, I have little doubt about the study showing the PP has come to rely on abortion as a prime source of revenue, as distinct from offering a service to individuals who seek them out to request it. Its the same story with many &#8220;non-profits,&#8221; the ones that don&#8217;t pay a corporate dividend, but rely on commercial sales of services to support a mostly paid (not volunteer) staff.</p>
<p>Everyone is talking about different angles on the Tebows, but Rod Dreher had an interesting take on Tebow being asked by reporters &#8220;are you saving yourself for marriage,&#8221; and replying &#8220;yes I am,&#8221; then laughing at the reporters for being embarrassed. A Washington Post sports writer even complimented his answer.</p>
<p>What grabbed me about this long column was way back at the beginning: sex education should be compulsory, and ten year olds should be seen as &#8220;sexual beings,&#8221; no matter what the family or their church might be teaching.</p>
<p>This is a lot like the Freedom From Religion Foundation, wanting everyone to be free to think just like they do &#8212; e.g., if you&#8217;re not an atheist, you&#8217;re not free. In this case, the authors of the report have a notion that &#8220;my personal attitudes toward sexuality, and the ones I share with the other people who prepared this report, are THE proper way for all human beings to think about sexuality.&#8221; Excuse me, but I might think differently about sexuality, and since its still a free country, sort of, I don&#8217;t have to think the way you do. I also don&#8217;t have to think the same way Gerard Nadal does, or the way Hugh Heffner does, or the way Barack Obama does, or the way Dr. James Dobson does.</p>
<p>Protecting children from obvious abuse has its place. But inevitably, since nobody has advocated that ten year olds are adults, eligible for adult prison sentences or execution, eligible to vote, etc., decisions about their upbringing are going to be made by their parents. There is a long line of Supreme Court precedent on this point, from </p>
<p>Pierce v. Society of Sisters of the Holy Name of Jesus and Mary</p>
<p><a href="http://supreme.justia.com/us/268/510/case.html" rel="nofollow">http://supreme.justia.com/us/268/510/case.html</a></p>
<p>to Troxel v. Granville</p>
<p><a href="http://supreme.justia.com/us/530/57/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://supreme.justia.com/us/530/57/index.html</a></p>
<p>Decisions about raising children are not helpful for the state to usurp, and as Justice Brennan wrote half a century ago, the framers of our constitution were no more willing to subordinate individual rights to the whim of electoral majorities than to monarchy. Planned Parenthood, or anyone of similar tastes, proclaiming that because Roman Catholic, Orthodox Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, or any other faiths don&#8217;t reach sex like WE teach sex, and therefore WE should get to teach ALL children OUR way, is totalitarian freethinking at its worst.</p>
<p>It reminds me of an obscure Ph.D thesis I read about while researching the biography of Howard University philosophy professor Eugene C. Holmes. His dissertation was a critique of John Dewey&#8217;s development of pragmatism. Dewey has come in for the same sort of flak Margaret Sanger has &#8212; he basically advocated public schools so the dirty ignorant unwashed children of immigrants would be socialized to be obedient factory workers. Holmes particularly critiqued the way that pragmatism had attached itself to populist and progressive currents in American politics, masquerading as democratic opposition to monopoly capitalism.</p>
<p>We have to get the nanny state social worker mentality unwound from both libertarian and communalist strands of our history and culture. Of course the way I frame this still means we will disagree about abortion, but, if we get the hands of this arrogant report off of children&#8217;s education, and if churches prepared to teach abstinence and fidelity can get a positive response from children they reach, then there will be a lot less abortion to debate about.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard M. Nadal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerard M. Nadal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bethany,

If I don&#039;t do this later, please remind me. I plan a commentary on this, including the point you just made in conjunction with Abby Johnson&#039;s reporting that PP makes its money on abortions. So think about it: The younger the children, the greater the contraceptive failure, the more abortions.

Malevolence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bethany,</p>
<p>If I don&#8217;t do this later, please remind me. I plan a commentary on this, including the point you just made in conjunction with Abby Johnson&#8217;s reporting that PP makes its money on abortions. So think about it: The younger the children, the greater the contraceptive failure, the more abortions.</p>
<p>Malevolence.</p>
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		<title>By: Bethany</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bethany]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Planned Parenthood loves to start them early.  Ugh. Great way to boost sales.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Planned Parenthood loves to start them early.  Ugh. Great way to boost sales.</p>
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